Jeroen, The Gutterman is marked 100% Silk S 1003 on the top. The bottom has several numbers: 1911807 (no description), 30 (No/Tkt) , 700m (length) and 701 (the color). The spool looks very similar to this: https://shop.dugdalebros.com/search/product/hand-button-long-staple-spun-silk-100-silk-dug13600/colour/mid_grey/ . The Coat's Tre Cerchi is marked 040 07041 on the top, and on the bottom 21475106 (no description) 500m (length) and TRDT. Dugdale's said they were supplying color 05012 (Mid Grey) to match grey cloth, but the color number they sent is different (07041). The colors are vastly different from each other.. The Gutermann is much lighter grey than the Tre Cerchi, and is also much thicker. Neither is a great match for the cloth they sent. I got the coat and trouser packs at different times. The two cloths have little in common and the trouser cloth is nothing that I would want to wear - looks like sharkskin. If I can help further please let me know. Regards, David